Comments on: Not switching for Stern http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/ News, notes and the inside scoop on Idaho's radio industry & beyond Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:43:11 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Jim http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-37379 Jim Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:52:04 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-37379 Look, the only reason Howard left was because he was offed a butt load of money. Now, as for SIRI, oh sorry that's the stock ticker symbol for Sirius Satalite that I happen to own 5000 shares of. I mean, Sirius Radio, it rocks! Buy a subscription, put in in you home, car, tent, camper. As long as you have power and a clear shot of the sky, you're in business. I took mine on a trip down the Salmon River. Great reception, wonderful channels. Jim Look, the only reason Howard left was because he was offed a butt load of money. Now, as for SIRI, oh sorry that’s the stock ticker symbol for Sirius Satalite that I happen to own 5000 shares of. I mean, Sirius Radio, it rocks! Buy a subscription, put in in you home, car, tent, camper. As long as you have power and a clear shot of the sky, you’re in business. I took mine on a trip down the Salmon River. Great reception, wonderful channels.

Jim

]]> By: codger http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-10867 codger Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:14:00 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-10867 First of all ratings are very arbitrary, how can you tell if someone isn't listening to terrestrial radio if he refuses to fill out a diary.....and yes it will affect ratings, but mostly cume not time spent listening. Already you can see that ther are less overall listeners than say 10 years ago......and it hasn't affected radios ability to sell time. Like anything else as long as the market will bare the prices, radio will always be able to sell time. I don't know of any radio station in the country that is charging less money for a spot today than what they charged 10 years ago.....If someone wants to advertise locally, where are they going to go.....TV, way to expensive for the same amount of people reached.....newspaper? still more expensive for less people reached. And trust me when I say that satalite radio will eventually add commercials, they are already starting to do it on certain channels and talking about doing it on others.....they will eventually have to, to keep their share holders happy. Once they reach they're saturation point and have signed up everyone that they can, they will have to have some way to increase revenue from year to year. You can only do that with new subscribers for only so long, then your share holders will want to increase revenues some way or they will cash out and take thier money elsewhere....that will make more money. First of all ratings are very arbitrary, how can you tell if someone isn’t listening to terrestrial radio if he refuses to fill out a diary…..and yes it will affect ratings, but mostly cume not time spent listening. Already you can see that ther are less overall listeners than say 10 years ago……and it hasn’t affected radios ability to sell time. Like anything else as long as the market will bare the prices, radio will always be able to sell time. I don’t know of any radio station in the country that is charging less money for a spot today than what they charged 10 years ago…..If someone wants to advertise locally, where are they going to go…..TV, way to expensive for the same amount of people reached…..newspaper? still more expensive for less people reached. And trust me when I say that satalite radio will eventually add commercials, they are already starting to do it on certain channels and talking about doing it on others…..they will eventually have to, to keep their share holders happy. Once they reach they’re saturation point and have signed up everyone that they can, they will have to have some way to increase revenue from year to year. You can only do that with new subscribers for only so long, then your share holders will want to increase revenues some way or they will cash out and take thier money elsewhere….that will make more money.

]]> By: The http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-10853 The Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:55:08 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-10853 Even if what you're saying is true, Codger (and I'm not saying it isn't), won't satellite radio listening really cut into time spent listening to terrestrial radio? And when it does (and I suspect it already has), won't that hurt terrestrial radio's ability to sell time? TSL is a pretty important sales tool. Even if what you’re saying is true, Codger (and I’m not saying it isn’t), won’t satellite radio listening really cut into time spent listening to terrestrial radio? And when it does (and I suspect it already has), won’t that hurt terrestrial radio’s ability to sell time? TSL is a pretty important sales tool.

]]> By: codger http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-10809 codger Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:11:27 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-10809 Satalite radio is good and everything, but once again there are a lot of things people don't realize or seem to forget. First of all if you look at projections for sirrus radio and xm for that matter from a couple of years ago, you will see that they are both on target for projected growth, and those projections came wayyyyy before Howard Stern or Ophra were ever signed. Second of all everyone seems to forget that when you sign up for satalite, your terrestrial radio doesn't all of a sudden stop working. Satalite is n't going til kill terestrial radio any more than cable killed regular tv. Competition is a good thing. Don't think for a moment that satalite will be the end all, already somebody somewhere is already working on the next new technology....Hell it's already happened, do you think the powers that be at satalite ever saw the popularity of ipod. Without mp3's popularity you'd be probably be looking at another couple million subscribers, but it's pretty hard to be able to spend 4 or 5 hundred dollars for an i pod loaded with up with music and then spend another 2 or 3 hundred on satalite set up and service. Not only that but most of the people getting into ipods are younger, and it will be much harder to get them to switch technologies as they get older, when they're used to something else, that already plays exactly what they want when they want with no commercials or promos or anything. It wouldn't be of any surprise to be able to get howard on an ipod soon. Satalite radio is good and everything, but once again there are a lot of things people don’t realize or seem to forget. First of all if you look at projections for sirrus radio and xm for that matter from a couple of years ago, you will see that they are both on target for projected growth, and those projections came wayyyyy before Howard Stern or Ophra were ever signed. Second of all everyone seems to forget that when you sign up for satalite, your terrestrial radio doesn’t all of a sudden stop working. Satalite is n’t going til kill terestrial radio any more than cable killed regular tv. Competition is a good thing. Don’t think for a moment that satalite will be the end all, already somebody somewhere is already working on the next new technology….Hell it’s already happened, do you think the powers that be at satalite ever saw the popularity of ipod. Without mp3’s popularity you’d be probably be looking at another couple million subscribers, but it’s pretty hard to be able to spend 4 or 5 hundred dollars for an i pod loaded with up with music and then spend another 2 or 3 hundred on satalite set up and service. Not only that but most of the people getting into ipods are younger, and it will be much harder to get them to switch technologies as they get older, when they’re used to something else, that already plays exactly what they want when they want with no commercials or promos or anything. It wouldn’t be of any surprise to be able to get howard on an ipod soon.

]]> By: The http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-10808 The Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:31:06 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-10808 Amen, Boosters! Amen, Boosters!

]]> By: boosters http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-10803 boosters Wed, 29 Mar 2006 04:09:48 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-10803 Regardless, lets be glad that Satellite radio emerged when it did. Given the 1996 Telecom Act and the destruction of the ownership limits and the subsequent McDonadization (BLANDNESS) of our once diverse and independent local radio stations, satellite radio may offer the only real alternative to the Clear Channel disease. Maybe we should tell congress to put an ownership limit on what these large firms can have on the satellite birds before its too late... I may not agree with Stern's content, but his program as well as other hosts innovations will nevertheless help to diminish the powerful grip that CC and other large media holding companies have created in this nation. Satellite radio today is to earthbound, what cable TV was to broadcast TV back in the mid to late 70's.... a force that will have to recognized sooner or later. Market forces will dicate what works.... folks vote with their wallets one way or the other. Regardless, lets be glad that Satellite radio emerged when it did. Given the 1996 Telecom Act and the destruction of the ownership limits and the subsequent McDonadization (BLANDNESS) of our once diverse and independent local radio stations, satellite radio may offer the only real alternative to the Clear Channel disease. Maybe we should tell congress to put an ownership limit on what these large firms can have on the satellite birds before its too late…

I may not agree with Stern’s content, but his program as well as other hosts innovations will nevertheless help to diminish the powerful grip that CC and other large media holding companies have created in this nation.

Satellite radio today is to earthbound, what cable TV was to broadcast TV back in the mid to late 70’s…. a force that will have to recognized sooner or later. Market forces will dicate what works…. folks vote with their wallets one way or the other.

]]> By: The http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-10800 The Wed, 29 Mar 2006 01:37:49 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-10800 Another thing to consider is that Stern, via Sirius, is now heard in parts of the country that would never have put him on terrestrial radio. The upside potential for satellite radio is VERY big, I believe, especially given the dissatisfaction on the part of the audience with what Clear Channel, et al, have done to the terrestrial radio scene. Another thing to consider is that Stern, via Sirius, is now heard in parts of the country that would never have put him on terrestrial radio. The upside potential for satellite radio is VERY big, I believe, especially given the dissatisfaction on the part of the audience with what Clear Channel, et al, have done to the terrestrial radio scene.

]]> By: Frank Jehlie http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-10796 Frank Jehlie Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:43:32 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-10796 Stern brought in a million new listeners in only a couple months. That is pretty impressive. So give it a year. Now that Stern has gone to SIRIUS they are over the 4 million listener mark... That makes SIRIUS a Top 10 Market on its own. It should be a Top 5 Market by the years end. No other market in the country has the possibility of such rapid growth. If you haven't had a chance to hear Stern on SIRIUS, give it a listen. The most real radio I have ever heard. Nobody holds back anymore. The interviews are fantastic. The in-studio fight with Sal The Stockbroker was a classic in radio history. That argument could have NEVER happened on terrestrial radio. SIRIUS is the bomb. Stern brought in a million new listeners in only a couple months. That is pretty impressive. So give it a year.

Now that Stern has gone to SIRIUS they are over the 4 million listener mark…

That makes SIRIUS a Top 10 Market on its own. It should be a Top 5 Market by the years end. No other market in the country has the possibility of such rapid growth.

If you haven’t had a chance to hear Stern on SIRIUS, give it a listen. The most real radio I have ever heard. Nobody holds back anymore. The interviews are fantastic. The in-studio fight with Sal The Stockbroker was a classic in radio history. That argument could have NEVER happened on terrestrial radio.

SIRIUS is the bomb.

]]> By: dave zarkin http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-10793 dave zarkin Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:23:26 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-10793 When I lived in Boise in the 60s I was a big fan of a Nampa top 40 station KFXD at the low end of the dial that did underground music on Sunday nights. I also enjoyed KBOI (950) when it was Top 40 with Hub Warner in the afternoon. Ralph Frazer, a city councilman, owned a daylite talk radio station with a right-wing announcer named Bob Carmichael who was succeeded by the cashiered warden/minister of the state penitentiary. Ralph had an FM station that broadcast classical music on weekend evenings hosted by a Boise State professor. KGEM was the cowboy station. Lon Dunne was the morning personality on KIDO (NBC). I have started multiple posts on my blog www.cheezymovies.blogspot.com related to Boise. In particular, a dream prompted me to put online my life in the 60s as a local government reporter, night desk copy editor and half-assed photographer for the Idaho Statesman. Check it out because I am returning to the scene of the crimes (mangling the King's English, according to Betty Penson) in mid-May. Please please comment. Dave Zarkin When I lived in Boise in the 60s I was a big fan of a Nampa top 40 station KFXD at the low end of the dial that did underground music on Sunday nights. I also enjoyed KBOI (950) when it was Top 40 with Hub Warner in the afternoon. Ralph Frazer, a city councilman, owned a daylite talk radio station with a right-wing announcer named Bob Carmichael who was succeeded by the cashiered warden/minister of the state penitentiary. Ralph had an FM station that broadcast classical music on weekend evenings hosted by a Boise State professor. KGEM was the cowboy station. Lon Dunne was the morning personality on KIDO (NBC). I have started multiple posts on my blog http://www.cheezymovies.blogspot.com related to Boise. In particular, a dream prompted me to put online my life in the 60s as a local government reporter, night desk copy editor and half-assed photographer for the Idaho Statesman. Check it out because I am returning to the scene of the crimes (mangling the King’s English, according to Betty Penson) in mid-May. Please please comment. Dave Zarkin

]]> By: The http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/comment-page-1/#comment-10781 The Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:46:53 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/go/archives/2006/03/27/not-switching-for-stern/#comment-10781 Sirius announced last week that they have now passed the 4 million mark. That's up over 2 million since early last year, I believe. XM now has over 6 million listeners. According to the NAB, though, satellite radio is no threat to terrestrial radio. Nothing to see here, folks. Keep moving. Sirius announced last week that they have now passed the 4 million mark. That’s up over 2 million since early last year, I believe. XM now has over 6 million listeners. According to the NAB, though, satellite radio is no threat to terrestrial radio. Nothing to see here, folks. Keep moving.

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