Comments on: No non-comm. app. for Idaho Community Radio http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/ News, notes and the inside scoop on Idaho's radio industry & beyond Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:43:11 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Jeremy Miller http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-88603 Jeremy Miller Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:30:15 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/#comment-88603 As the sun sets, there are several locally-produced, non-commercial radio stations currently based in the Boise-area. The most visible of these being University Pulse and Boise Radio Community Project. The fact that the method of delivery is largely internet based does not lessen the fact that local programming is available. Is it available in your car? Not today, but perhaps in the not too distant future. You've heard it before; old listening habits must be abandoned. Traditional terrestrial frequencies in Boise may not ever be accessible by the public ever again; this does not mean that public radio is dead. Whether Jeff misspoke or was misquoted, I'm not certain it matters. I've whined about public radio in Boise for years, and that has not brought it any closer. There comes a time that we have to invest in what we have and adapt to new opportunities. Thanks, Jeremy Miller RADIOBOISE.ORG Keeping their eyes on the prize! PULSE.BOISESTATE.EDU 24/7 non-commercial, locally programmed radio Asustek premiered this "radio" in June: http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/06/04/Asustek-previews_1.html As the sun sets, there are several locally-produced, non-commercial radio stations currently based in the Boise-area. The most visible of these being University Pulse and Boise Radio Community Project. The fact that the method of delivery is largely internet based does not lessen the fact that local programming is available. Is it available in your car? Not today, but perhaps in the not too distant future. You’ve heard it before; old listening habits must be abandoned.
Traditional terrestrial frequencies in Boise may not ever be accessible by the public ever again; this does not mean that public radio is dead.
Whether Jeff misspoke or was misquoted, I’m not certain it matters. I’ve whined about public radio in Boise for years, and that has not brought it any closer. There comes a time that we have to invest in what we have and adapt to new opportunities.

Thanks,
Jeremy Miller

RADIOBOISE.ORG Keeping their eyes on the prize!

PULSE.BOISESTATE.EDU 24/7 non-commercial, locally programmed radio

Asustek premiered this “radio” in June:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/06/04/Asustek-previews_1.html

]]> By: Jeff Abrams http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-88602 Jeff Abrams Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:40:39 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/#comment-88602 Hello - The discussion about the merits or local needs of a community-based radio station has been nice to follow. I thought I'd add a bit from the perspective of the actual applicant. I'm actually quite interested in seeing the source of any content representing the area as having "no other non-commercial stations". If it was indeed an "interview", they simply got it wrong. We would no more contend this than assert that Earth was the only planet in our solar system. We have always maintained that we would be the area's only non-commercial, independent, locally-programmed radio station....a conlusion I still feel quite comfortable with. For what it's worth, I think Peabody and WKRP's assessment of current program offerings is fairly accurate. Not that it matters, because it's not an opinion. A clinical inventory of both NCEs and commercial broadcasters bears this out unequivocally. Sadly, absentee ownership of broadcast facilities is at an all-time high. It's stunning that we actually still have an opportunity to practice freedom of the press without regard to stock portfolios of corporate shareholders. A last point: the FX that was initially licensed to Kitsap Communications and subsequently sold to Silver Creek Management operates on 93.5 FM, not 93.7. Thanks all for the discussion.....hope you'll be tuning in. Should we be successful we actually anticipate having a beautiful signal througout most areas of the Valley! Regards, Jeff Abrams Boise Community Radio Hello –

The discussion about the merits or local needs of a community-based radio station has been nice to follow. I thought I’d add a bit from the perspective of the actual applicant.

I’m actually quite interested in seeing the source of any content representing the area as having “no other non-commercial stations”. If it was indeed an “interview”, they simply got it wrong.

We would no more contend this than assert that Earth was the only planet in our solar system. We have always maintained that we would be the area’s only non-commercial, independent, locally-programmed radio station….a conlusion I still feel quite comfortable with.

For what it’s worth, I think Peabody and WKRP’s assessment of current program offerings is fairly accurate. Not that it matters, because it’s not an opinion. A clinical inventory of both NCEs and commercial broadcasters bears this out unequivocally. Sadly, absentee ownership of broadcast facilities is at an all-time high. It’s stunning that we actually still have an opportunity to practice freedom of the press without regard to stock portfolios of corporate shareholders.

A last point: the FX that was initially licensed to Kitsap Communications and subsequently sold to Silver Creek Management operates on 93.5 FM, not 93.7.

Thanks all for the discussion…..hope you’ll be tuning in. Should we be successful we actually anticipate having a beautiful signal througout most areas of the Valley!

Regards,

Jeff Abrams
Boise Community Radio

]]> By: Jac http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-88598 Jac Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:48:26 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/#comment-88598 That wasn't the point. The point is that BCRP said there are NO OTHER non-commercial stations in the area. They didn't say tht there is not any other alternative programming. They could have easily phrased it differently, but they didn't. That wasn’t the point. The point is that BCRP said there are NO OTHER non-commercial stations in the area. They didn’t say tht there is not any other alternative programming.

They could have easily phrased it differently, but they didn’t.

]]> By: WKRP http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-88597 WKRP Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:32:08 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/#comment-88597 I have to agree with Peabody. There really isn't much locally-produced alternative programming in this market. There are a few programs on BSR's AM signal, Saturdays from 6am - 2pm on KBSU and then the alternative shows on the River and the X. Is that really enough? Not for those of us who believe there is a whole lot more music out there that's not getting aired. Face it, the good signals are taken up by the corporations and they're not about to take any chances on bands that "nobody's heard of" it doesn't work for their profit margin. And community service? Forget it. It's an uphill battle for nonprofits to get any air time for their events. Boise needs a Community Radio Station and while BCRP may be imperfect, they are at least trying. Give 'em a shot, even with a crappy signal. I have to agree with Peabody. There really isn’t much locally-produced alternative programming in this market. There are a few programs on BSR’s AM signal, Saturdays from 6am – 2pm on KBSU and then the alternative shows on the River and the X. Is that really enough? Not for those of us who believe there is a whole lot more music out there that’s not getting aired. Face it, the good signals are taken up by the corporations and they’re not about to take any chances on bands that “nobody’s heard of” it doesn’t work for their profit margin. And community service? Forget it. It’s an uphill battle for nonprofits to get any air time for their events. Boise needs a Community Radio Station and while BCRP may be imperfect, they are at least trying. Give ‘em a shot, even with a crappy signal.

]]> By: Peabody http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-88585 Peabody Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:43:58 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/#comment-88585 BSU does deliver a product that fofills some of Boise's niche programming needs. That is undeniable. It does provide culturally diverse entertainment and an alternate source of news and information. It does provide SOME local programming. However, I can safely say, BSU's local and student radio is nothing short of a joke. BSU radio has three stations broadcasting in this area and, as far as I know, only one of them has a time slot for student radio. It is not to be heard on one of thier HD digital FM's. No way. The University Pulse is limited to poor AM sound quality one partial day a week. Looking at the schedule Univerity Pulse runs from 12P to 12a- a seemingly impressive 12 hour time slot. But remember- in winter, the AM's have to switch to the nighttime pattern between about 5 and 7 o'clock. KBSU AM's nighttime power is only about 500 watts, and has extremely poor building penetration downtown. That leaves only about 5-7 hours of good quality signal. Is that really enough? Perhaps BCRP is not the right crew for the job. Maybe not ICR either. I don't know. But I wouldn't mind hearing a true local community station in Boise. Just sayin'. Thank goodness for Journal Broadcast Group providing shows like The Other Studio on The River and Xclusive on The X to actually bring some interesting local programming. Someone's gotta do it. BSU does deliver a product that fofills some of Boise’s niche programming needs. That is undeniable. It does provide culturally diverse entertainment and an alternate source of news and information. It does provide SOME local programming. However, I can safely say, BSU’s local and student radio is nothing short of a joke. BSU radio has three stations broadcasting in this area and, as far as I know, only one of them has a time slot for student radio. It is not to be heard on one of thier HD digital FM’s. No way. The University Pulse is limited to poor AM sound quality one partial day a week. Looking at the schedule Univerity Pulse runs from 12P to 12a- a seemingly impressive 12 hour time slot. But remember- in winter, the AM’s have to switch to the nighttime pattern between about 5 and 7 o’clock. KBSU AM’s nighttime power is only about 500 watts, and has extremely poor building penetration downtown. That leaves only about 5-7 hours of good quality signal. Is that really enough?

Perhaps BCRP is not the right crew for the job. Maybe not ICR either. I don’t know. But I wouldn’t mind hearing a true local community station in Boise. Just sayin’.

Thank goodness for Journal Broadcast Group providing shows like The Other Studio on The River and Xclusive on The X to actually bring some interesting local programming. Someone’s gotta do it.

]]> By: Don@IdahoRadio http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-88582 Don@IdahoRadio Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:24:34 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/#comment-88582 I'm with Jac - and still stand by this: http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/04/mum-on-bcrp/ I’m with Jac – and still stand by this: http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2006/03/04/mum-on-bcrp/

]]> By: Peabody http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-88581 Peabody Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:23:53 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/#comment-88581 It's true that there are several non-commercial stations here. Most of them are Christian/religious stations and translators. BSU radio is also non-commercial. Unfortunately, like most of the religious translators, most of the programming on BSU radio is satellite fed. There is not much local programming, and hardly any student programming. The idea behind a local community station (I hope) is to have locally programmed community radio instead of a PRI, BBC, or NPR feed being pumped into an empty studio. That is probably the kind of non-commercial station that they are referring to. It’s true that there are several non-commercial stations here. Most of them are Christian/religious stations and translators. BSU radio is also non-commercial. Unfortunately, like most of the religious translators, most of the programming on BSU radio is satellite fed. There is not much local programming, and hardly any student programming. The idea behind a local community station (I hope) is to have locally programmed community radio instead of a PRI, BBC, or NPR feed being pumped into an empty studio. That is probably the kind of non-commercial station that they are referring to.

]]> By: Jac http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-88580 Jac Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:12:18 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/#comment-88580 In their interview they said this area needs a non-commercial station, but isn't bsu radio non-commercial? In their interview they said this area needs a non-commercial station, but isn’t bsu radio non-commercial?

]]> By: Peabody http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/comment-page-1/#comment-88579 Peabody Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:00:34 +0000 http://idahoradionews.com/index.php/2007/10/25/no-non-comm-app-for-idaho-community-radio/#comment-88579 Yep. There is not much available out there. I believe BCRP is even going to find 89.9 to be a tough frequency to obtain. If they are somehow able to get thier hands on a license, thier signal would either have to be very low powered or directional to protect a 100kW station on 89.9 in Twin Falls. That station can be heard west of Mountain home. I wish BCRP luck, however. A Boise community station is long overdue. It's tough out there for new non-coms that are non-Jesuscasters. Yep. There is not much available out there. I believe BCRP is even going to find 89.9 to be a tough frequency to obtain. If they are somehow able to get thier hands on a license, thier signal would either have to be very low powered or directional to protect a 100kW station on 89.9 in Twin Falls. That station can be heard west of Mountain home. I wish BCRP luck, however. A Boise community station is long overdue. It’s tough out there for new non-coms that are non-Jesuscasters.

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