More than 50 students at Minico High School in Rupert showed pride in their heritage on Cinco de Mayo by wearing the colors of the Mexican flag. The call to action came from Ben Reed of KFTA/La Fantastica 970 - who prompted more than 50 students to sport the colors.
Reed’s call to action came after a student charged that a teacher threw away his Mexican flag after it was confiscated during PE. The teacher said he didn’t have any pockets, and “put it in the garbage can for safekeeping. ” The student said the instructor had a pattern of making racist comments.
Reed told the Twin Falls Times-News that racial tension has been rising in the area in recent years.
“There is a lot of racial tension in the area,” he told the paper. “I have seen it escalate the past couple of years, and it’s reaching a fever pitch.”
Reed did not respond to an e-mail from Idaho Radio News seeking comment.
The school previously cut funding for its English as a Second Language program - which led the program’s teacher to make a statement of his own last Tuesday.
The program cut was a factor again this week when ESL teacher Dan Luker, who has resigned rather than be assigned elsewhere, heard about the flag incident and responded by desecrating an American flag in the office of a school administrator on Tuesday.
Luker appeared on Reed’s program Wednesday to apologize for stepping on the flag.
on May 15th, 2008 at 6:28 am
I am rather surprised that we have had no responses on this so far. What surprises me more is the attitude and downright obvious racism that this has brought to the surface in Southern Idaho. I have personally witnessed people who saw nothing wrong with what the teacher did, and in fact actually DEFENDED his right to confiscate the Mexican Flag and toss it in the garbage. I have also heard about the rather large (and disturbing) amount of backlash that Ben has received in Rupert at KFTA-AM from virtually all sides.
It serves only to prove beyond a doubt that racism is alive and well in the Mini-Cassia area (as well as everywhere whether we like to admit it or not). What I thought was a rather innocent radio stunt that garnered a TON of attention (and face it, don’t we ALL love the attention we get when doing some stunts?) has turned into a firestorm of controversy simply because a student who decided to show support for a Mexican holiday (which Americans just LOVE to support as long as it means a reason to get drunk, too) and a teacher, showing an incredible lack of conscience thought, who actually believed his actions would go un-noticed. For those who argue that this is America, why can’t you accept that the ONLY flag that matters is the Red, White & Blue… I don’t see anybody moaning or complaining about St. Patricks Day when once again, the beer-swilling masses go out of their way to support Ireland. We have a HOST of Chinatowns in this country where it is perfectly okay to show respect for your heritage, even though we are all inside of the United States. I know of hundreds of people who proudly proclaim they are German, Italian, English, French (okay, maybe not so much) but you get the idea. Why is it suddenly considered socially acceptable to proclaim proudly where you come from–as long as it ISN’T from Mexico?
Before I get butchered for taking this stance, let me tell you I was born & raised in the Pacific NW and feel that as long as you come to this country LEGALLY, I say welcome. I am 100% against illegal immigration…I am also against racism in ALL its forms. I think Ben did NOTHING wrong, in fact he was catering to his listening audience–which if I am not mistaken is what we are SUPPOSED to do, and for doing that he has received a TON of grief over it. Ben, I just want you to know I am in your corner and I am constantly impressed with how you connect with your listeners in a way that most of us can only dream of.
Keep up the good work and know that you have done NOTHING wrong.
on May 15th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Just try this “innocent” little stunt in Mexico. Then tell us all about racism. For the record, you can not intimidate me in any way shape or form, by using that term as an expression of my viewpoint. If it is racism and you want to class it as such….be my guest and I will wear your label proudly.
We have had enough, paying for all their babies and medical expenses!!! They get it all for free!! We have had enough of this pandering to them as if they are so mistreated and abused….If that is so then go back to Mexico. SPEAK THE DAMN LANGUAGE!!! ASSIMILATE AND BECOME AMERICANS!!!!
My wife retired from teaching. She would tell her Mexican students that they really needed to learn ENGLISH. Their response??? verbatim it was this “F**** You we are not Americans, we are Mexicans. YOU NEED TO LEARN TO SPEAK MEXICAN.”
Talk to me about this innocent little thingy. Where do they get that idea???? FROM THEIR HOMES!!! Your white liberal guilt is really showing!!!
on May 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Has it occured to any of the PC Police that that this kid didn’t wave his flag at a parade or a public gathering. He did it in the gym during class. If you don’t want to beleive he was being deliberately disruptive that’s your choice, but don’t pee on my head and tell me it’s only raining. The kid was looking to provoke a response and the little sh*t got one. But hey, everything is acceptable if you can throw the race card at the problem, right?
We can probably fix all this county’s problems if we just kiss everybody’s divisive, tribal ass just a little bit more.
on May 15th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Thanks Jeff for the vote of confidence! As for Mr. Morgan, you really need a little sensitivity training! Most Latinos either do or want to speak the English language. Sure there are some students who have a bad attitude, but I think you would be surprised to know that the majority who just arrived from their native countries actually do better in school than those who have been here for a while. I don’t have tolerance for insubordination from ANY party, but this issue should be looked at as an issue of free speech. Besides the student got the flag from ANOTHER teacher, not from home. And for crying out loud, it was CINCO DE MAYO! You would expect to see a Mexican flag there that day. EVEN GEORGE BUSH WAIVED THE MEXICAN FLAG AT THE WHITEHOUSE THAT DAY! Also, why shoot the messenger on this issue? I didn’t start the fire. The teacher did and didn’t run with the story until I had 2 other teachers call me and CONFIRM the story. And what about the cross-town conservative hosts at Anglo stations that told the Anglo kids to take American and Confederate flags to school? They were in their right to do so as well, even if one host went to the extreme saying he would take away any Mexican flag, douse it with gas and light it on fire. Nobody threw HIM under the bus! This is an issue about protecting the rights of those who may not be popular, but that is the law. Would have I done things differently in hindsight, probably, but I hope the issue will lead to perhaps more understanding and tolerance.
on May 15th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
elchupacabras said: Most Latinos either do or want to speak the English language. Sure there are some students who have a bad attitude, but I think you would be surprised to know that the majority who just arrived from their native countries actually do better in school than those who have been here for a while.
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You are not going to get away with that one. My wife taught in classes that were regularly 70% Mexican. It wasn’t just a “few.” This is the common speak of 95% of the Mexicans in our schools. I have friends who still have kids in school. These range from Weiser to Boise. Their kids have been attacked, harassed, called Gringo’s, etc..
The other question I have for you is this. WHY ARE WE CELEBRATING CINCO DE MAYO??? I quit frankly don’t give a damn about CINCO DE ANYTHING. Tell me about the Fourth of July Celebration in MEXICO. Oh and by the way if what you say is true….that most Mexicans want to learn English….tell me why in the world is there such an upsurge in Mexican Radio stations. If this were my world, there would be none…..PERIOD.
Are you looking for understanding and tolerance??? Then just pay attention to the most wanted persons from the Ada and Canyon County Sheriff’s office. It doesn’t take much to find it….it is online each and every week. Over a year you will find that almost 70% of the criminals are Mexicans. Tell me how I need to understand the Mexican who was so drunk he parked his car in the fast lane on I-84. Then a young lady ran into it and killed herself. I understand…..and by the way I have tolerated this nonsense just about enough.
Elchupacabras, you have no idea the seething rage that is out there on this issue. You all keep trying to tamp it down….but let me assure you that if YOU DON’T CHANGE and get the message out to your people….it will get very ugly. I predict that if your people don’t change and quit milking the welfare system…and scamming the medical system. If your people don’t do what my wife’s people did when they came to America….when they arrived and settled in North Dakota, her grandpa said…NO MORE GERMAN WILL BE SPOKEN IN THIS HOUSE, WE ARE AMERICANS NOW….then things will get real ugly.
I only hope I don’t live long enough to see it.
on May 15th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Furthermore Elchupacabras, I would think you might go wash your mouth out with soap suggesting it is I who needs the sensitivity training. You might try to be a bit more sensitive particularly when it comes to the hard working AMERICANS who feed your people, make sure their babies have FREE MEDICAL CARE, and give them housing. I do believe that is sensitive enough.
Let me give you a true story in SENSITIVITY AND GOODNESS. Let’s change the names and places, but the story is true. The Mendoza family does this scam each and every year. When time comes for field work to start here in Idaho, they leave McAllen Texas. Before leaving however they stop into the local welfare office and claim they are destitute. They have six children, or at least claim that many. The local welfare office gives them $1000 dollars. Of they go headed north. Upon arriving in Salt Lake City, it is a stop at the local welfare office, and claim they are destitute….another $1000 dollars to “help them out.” Then they arrive in lets pick a town, Emmett. First stop, the local welfare office where you guessed it….another $1000….to “help them out.”
So….we paid them $3000 dollars to come up here and work??? Gosh, I guess we all need some more sensitivity training.
I could go on and on. These hard working misunderstood people, who have destroyed Nampa and Caldwell. Oh I like this one….they are all just PEACE LOVING PEOPLE….and all the drive by shootings are simply a figment of our imagination. All the gang graffiti is really white AMERICANS trying to mistreat these poor misunderstood people.
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!
on May 15th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Roger writes:
“I would think you might go wash your mouth out with soap suggesting it is I who needs the sensitivity training. You might try to be a bit more sensitive particularly when it comes to the hard working AMERICANS who feed your people, make sure their babies have FREE MEDICAL CARE, and give them housing. I do believe that is sensitive enough.”
Funny thing. I am an American citizen, born at St. Luke’s Regional in Boise some 38 years ago. I am not even Hispanic, although my fiancee is from Mexico, and yes I am dealing with red tape from the feds trying to bring her to this country, despite the fact she studied here, speaks perfect English and had a legitimate visa. I say that to diffuse any preconceived notions.
The debate has nothing to do with immigration. The question is about respect for another person’s property. In order to remain a free nation, even unpopular forms of expression should be protected.
As for Cinco de Mayo, it is much more widely celebrated here in the US than it is in Mexico. Only Mexico’s Puebla state declares it a major holiday to mark the 1862 battle against French forces, in which they were significantly outnumbered. We should be grateful, because had the French forces not been defeated, they were headed straight for the U.S. It has morphed into a holiday, just like St. Patrick’s Day or Halloween as an excuse for many to get drunk. Nevertheless, it is important to many Hispanics in the US, just as Oktoberfest is for Germans.
I am sorry you have had some unfortunate encounters that have tainted your views, but please understand that you paint all Latinos with a wide brush. If there are criminal elements within ANY society, they need to be dealt with.
But again, your rhetoric shows just how adamant and nasty the debate has become. I digress, the debate should be limited to the facts and not some emotional recitation of stereotypes.
on May 15th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
A few more words:
As a red-blooded “conservative” that I presume you are, I thought that your ilk believes that the marketplace should be king, right? That being so, if there is a market for Spanish language radio stations and you can make money on it, why not?
I lived in North Dakota as a child and remember stations there that had nothing but German polka music with half of the content in German. Nobody sad anything. The market was the influencing force there.
Hence, when the FCC allots a licensee a frequency, the requirement is to serve the market. If there are 35-40% Latinos in the market area, doesn’t it make sense to broadcast in a language and/or format that reaches them?
on May 15th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
And I’m sure the Native Americans are quite thankful all us illegal immigrants showed up in their country and taught them to speak our language and practice our religion. Yep, that was the Great White Favor allright!
on May 16th, 2008 at 1:10 am
“Let me give you a true story in SENSITIVITY AND GOODNESS. Let’s change the names and places, but the story is true. The Mendoza family does this scam each and every year. When time comes for field work to start here in Idaho, they leave McAllen Texas. Before leaving however they stop into the local welfare office and claim they are destitute. They have six children, or at least claim that many. The local welfare office gives them $1000 dollars. Of they go headed north. Upon arriving in Salt Lake City, it is a stop at the local welfare office, and claim they are destitute….another $1000 dollars to “help them out.” Then they arrive in lets pick a town, Emmett. First stop, the local welfare office where you guessed it….another $1000….to “help them out.”
Is that story like the “woman from Chicago who is on welfare but drives around in a Cadillac” that Ronald Reagan invented back in the 80’s?
I know a Mexican illegal immigrant who has superpowers who goes around, flying in the windows of people’s homes, steals their TV’s and flies back out before he can be caught. Oh and he drives a Cadillac.
Wow, this making stuff up is FUN! Oops, I meant telling true stories. After all, anything you say on the Internet is automatically true.
Remind me to tell you the story of the racist right-wing talk show host some time. It’s a doozy.
on May 16th, 2008 at 4:35 am
You all can call me anything you wish. If that is the label you want to put on me, then I will wear it proudly. The story of the Mendoza family is truth. I watched that transpire year after year after year.
Your argument about Mexican language radio stations and German language radio stations misses the point. You were telling me and others how MOST Mexicans speak or WANT TO SPEAK English. Gosh I would think if that were the TRUTH, then there would not be any Mexican language broadcasts.
Oh and by the way “THE,” think I am not telling the truth?? You want to roll your eyes and invoke the name of Ronald Reagan. Simply do a Google search about the 300 lb woman in New Orleans, who is leading a protest against tearing down some of the public housing. She has lived on the public dole for something like 51 years of her life, has hardwood floors in her home, has a two and a half block long HDTV in her home…..and she has the audacity to proclaim that she is tired of living in this dump. The story is easy to find, ran for a couple of days in the Picayune newspaper.
I spoke from first hand knowledge, and could add more first hand observable accounts. But your white liberal guilt is like wearing rose colored glasses.
on May 16th, 2008 at 5:57 am
Roger, if your story about the “Mendoza” family were true, it proves really just how intolerant you are. Foreign nationals CANNOT receive any public assistance. The “welfare office” does not just hand out cash to anyone. If the family did get a grand in each stop off, which I doubt happened, it must mean they WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS. So that being the case, they must not have been “illegal.” I am not saying welfare abuse does not exist, but your story has too many holes in it. It demonstrates your bias against those who might be more dark complected.
on May 16th, 2008 at 6:45 am
For the record, I am quite a conservative–I wouldn’t label myself a Right-Winger, but I honestly believe we desperately NEED better border control and comprehensive laws which help Americans against those who take advantage of our well-meaning but quite flawed welfare system–but on the flip-side, I personally KNOW of a boat-load of red blooded Americans who have ‘worked the system’ to milk the absolute most possible from Government handouts, too. In my entire life, honestly I have been screwed over by more White Americans than by ANY minority. Truthfully, I deal a lot less with minorities than with anyone else, but even so.
Yes, I am fully aware that there are those within the Hispanic Community nation wide who give a bad name to those who Ben is referring to…just like there are bad white people, bad Asians, bad Italians and soforth. We ALL have first-hand experience and knowledge of SOMEONE who ruins it for the rest of us, but to lump ALL Mexicans into the same group as though by virtue of their genetic makeup, they are basically pre-determined to be a bad students who talk back to their teachers and will eventually live off of Government hand-outs…sorry, but under THAT view, it is simply RACISM — and, Roger W. Morgan, by your own admission, that is a lablel you will ‘wear proudly’.
While I am sure you personally do NOT consider yourself racist, and you most likely aren’t (by most standards), but hating on virtually ALL Mexicans simply for the reasons you give doesn’t disguise the fact that judging them based on those bad-seeds is simply not fair–and I think you know that, but it’s easier to throw all of them under the bus as it helps to justify your prejudices simply because of where their parents (or they) were born.
So again, calling me a Liberal because I want to be Fair to a Mexican Student who I have never met and who was treated unfairly by a teacher who probably is otherwise a very good at what he does, well THAT is a label I will wear proudly. I wonder if this had been a student from Germany whose flag was thrown in the garbage on Oktoberfest if the firestorm of controversy wouldn’t be entirely pointed at the teacher and the matter would simply have ended at that point?
Let’s be FAIR to everyone and stop judging, is that too much to ask?
on May 16th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Wow…this is exactly why I waited to reply. All I can say is Bens heart was in the right place and the aftermath both in the area (and on here) illustrates the danger of racism that bubbles underneath the surface on both sides. I didn’t choose the word ‘danger’ lightly either. I’ve been amazed at the lengths hatred can go to in this area. Seemingly hard working, religious ‘folk’ can turn into a Dr. Jekel personality in an instant. Whatever ’side’ people are on, they should take a deep breath before spouting the incredible amount of bile I’ve heard over the last 2 weeks and remember to act like responsible adults if at all poss. Words often beget actions and that’s frightening in this case.
on May 16th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
elchupacabras….you can quote me the law all you want. You can also probably identify the location of the place in Ontario that is passing out fake SSI numbers and identification papers. I say that since you are so intimately involved in the Mexican/Latino community. Now if you do and have not called the police and ratted them out….shame on you.
I don’t know how I classify myself. However I will not let you or any other white liberal guilt ridden person try to intimidate me by using the RACIST TERM.
What is white liberal guilt? In a nut shell it is this….”oh I am sooooo sorry, I am an American and we are the cause of all the worlds problems. The reason you poor Mexican got drunk and parked your car on I-84 thereby murdering a young lady is because I am white. I am a white American and therefore I am doubly responsible for all the drive by shootings and graffiti and all the social ills of the Mexican community…..I am sooooooo sorry I am a white American but gosh I am trying to change.”
You and all your ilk are the damn racists. You see everything in skin color. I see everything in CULTURE. You want to “HELP” the poor Mexican…and by your idea of HELP you are in fact enabling them to continue being the way they are. TELL THEM THE DAMN TRUTH. Here is a start, how about STOP MILKING THE WELFARE SYSTEM. Another start….TURN IN THOSE YOU KNOW WHO YOU KNOW ARE MAKING ILLEGAL IDENTIFICATIONS. Oh here is another one….STAND AND PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART WHEN THE NATIONAL ANTHEM IS PLAYED….THIS IS THE COUNTRY THAT FEEDS YOU AND PAYS YOU TO RAISE ALL YOUR DAMN WELFARE BABIES SO SHOW SOME RESPECT.
As for you CCsurvivor….you are absolutely correct at the amount of seething rage out in the communities. You say that you are amazed? If you are involved in broadcasting don’t you think it would be a good idea to REALLY KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY? You know Boise is not the center of the Universe. Try putting this thought into your amazement. When hard working, religious “folk” work all their lives. Support poor folk in their community, or like my family gave THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of dollars to the Mexican community. Then you have people like yourself tell us all what a bunch of racist garbage we are…look out. When these hard working, religious “folk” are told repeatedly how bad they are for getting annoyed and angry at a young man holding up a Mexico flag, they get really upset when people like you tell them how rotten they are.
Larry Craig, and all the others, tell us that when our kids get arrested for DUI, they will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Then they tell us that those who broke the law….ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, need to be allowed to stay. GOSH IT IS BEYOND ME WHY HARD WORKING, RELIGIOUS “FOLK.” GET ALL UPSET.
I have said my piece. Hopefully some of you will start thinking, and get out and REALLY KNOW YOU COMMUNITY. Stop thinking you are cool because all of your friends think you are.
on May 16th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Roger, I used to respect your posts, but after your latest, I just sit and laugh. You sure get worked up, don’t you? Better take something for hypertension or you’ll end up six feet under with so much anger.
And I have to hearken back to Tommy’s intelligent post and add to it. Could you imagine what the Native Americans would have done had they said, “No amnesty for the Pilgrims and their anchor babies?”
Just thought I’d add some salt to your wounds, ‘cuz I love to stir it up! LOL
on May 16th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Elchupacabras…..typical response from someone who can’t respond….so you try to denigrate me with your elitist condescending attitude.
Oh poor you, go to the Native American argument, because you have nothing to say. Thanks, in your own supposedly elitist educated response you have confirmed all my arguments.
By the way, when back in the sixties Notus was a beautiful little community. I used to play all day long and NEVER check in with my family. Try that today!! I WONDER WHY???? But you do know the answer don’t you.
on May 16th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Uhhh….Roger, if you are indicitive of ‘any’ community….count me out. Are you even IN broadcasting? Geez, what are you even doing here except grasping from attention. No further responses of yours will be read or commented on by me. Begone Mr Hyde.
on May 16th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Dear Mr. Morgan,
After reviewing all of your comments on here, and after analyzing all of your arguments, I’ve decided to go after the stupidest one I can see.
Because according to you, all Mexicans get drunk, drive from the bar, and then intentionally park their cars on the freeway all in order to kill white women.
Not to slightly change the subject, but every race has a problem with drinking and driving. So please, of all your arguments, drop this dumb ass comment. Because no matter how you spin it, it seriously takes away any credibility you may have in any of your other arguments.
Sincerely,
Ian
P.S. Seriously, MEXICANS AREN’T THE ONLY ONES WHO DRINK AND DRIVE. LET IT THE F#@% GO.
on May 16th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
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We now join our regular broadcat blog already in progress….
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on May 17th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Roger W. Morgan said:
“elchupacabras….you can quote me the law all you want. You can also probably identify the location of the place in Ontario that is passing out fake SSI numbers and identification papers. I say that since you are so intimately involved in the Mexican/Latino community. Now if you do and have not called the police and ratted them out….shame on you.”
Yes, a person who observes law-breaking and doesn’t report it is wrong.
Hmm, what’s this I see?
“The story of the Mendoza family is truth. I watched that transpire year after year after year.”
So, you reported that to the Immigration authorities, right? Because if you didn’t, you’d be an enormous hypocrite.
on May 17th, 2008 at 12:22 am
Actually, upon a moment’s thought, I realized that if you HAD reported it, it almost certainly wouldn’t have “transpire[d] year after year after year”.
Do as I say, not as I do, eh?
on May 17th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Oh yes, It was reported, by me. That is why it stopped. Also three drunk drivers have been reported by me.
Finally, name me one community in this valley that had to have their own Sheriff’s Deputy living in and stationed at that community. Why did they make it mandatory that the Sheriff’s Deputy live and be stationed in that community? Because of CRIME. Hmmmmm let me think now………….Oh I know…..Eagle, Idaho? Star?…..still thinking here….Melba? Middleton? Meridian?….still thinking….Oh I know, I know….FARMWAY VILLAGE, Canyon County, Idaho.
A Mexican Community of about 500 persons.
on May 17th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
I’ll bet the real Roger W. Morgan of boss jock fame isn’t very happy with someone using it as a pseudonym to post racially offensive statements. You defame the name of great broadcaster because you are to chicken to use your own. By the way, how many white sheets do you own?
on May 17th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
too chicken, I meant to say
on May 18th, 2008 at 1:49 am
I don’t doubt for a moment that there’s a higher-than-average crime rate in a poor Mexican neighborhood.
If you know the history of the last century or so of America, you know that that’s been the case in just about all newly-arrived immigrant neighborhoods.
Nearly every ethnic group that came to America had its own gangs and criminal enterprises in their neighborhoods in Manhattan, after they got off the boat from The Old Country. It isn’t anything that Mexicans invented.
Before you feel the need to jump on me, no, I am NOT defending illegal immigration. We’re talking about crime in immigrant neighborhoods at the moment.
on May 18th, 2008 at 8:30 am
elchupacabras said: I’ll bet the real Roger W. Morgan of boss jock fame isn’t very happy with someone using it as a pseudonym to post racially offensive statements. You defame the name of great broadcaster because you are to chicken to use your own. By the way, how many white sheets do you own?
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Until you or anyone looks at the truth, nothing will change!!! Quite frankly I don’t care if what I say is offensive or not. Go be offended and what does that get you. LOOK AT TRUTH. There are REAL AND SUBSTANTIAL problems in the Mexican community. UNTIL anyone says the truth, and people are willing to look at the truth you have more of the same. TRUTH, you came to America to have a “better life.” Why in the world do you want to continue the same failed life style you left…and keep living it here?? TRUTH, this country is a nation of LAW. The LAW MUST BE KING….just because you are an immigrant doesn’t mean you get any special favors.
I may have not liked my Daddy when he told me the truth. Things like, don’t spend more than you earn. Or, don’t drink and drive. Or, don’t expect anyone to give you anything, and most of all the government. If you take money from the government, you will become a slave. All of the truth he spoke, didn’t make me “feel good” about myself. Matter of fact HE OFFENDED ME!!! Guess what, now that he is dead and gone, I sure wish I could tell him how smart he really was.
What you are missing in all of my arguments, and you are trapped in the “liberal” speak or the “political correct” speak, is this. If you only seek to “UNDERSTAND AND NOT BE OFFENSIVE” you are part of the problem!!! When you seek to understand a man who murders his family, by that understanding you have come to a modicum of acceptance. When you accept you begin to allow. When you start allowing you then have nothing but chaos in your community, county, city, state, or country.
Let me give you an example. The lady in Texas who murdered all five of her children. The hue and cry was…”oh we must understand post partum depression.” WHY???? Five children were murdered!!! What is there to understand? If you reach the understanding part…you then ACCEPT the murder!! Then you begin to allow it. You then unleash chaos in the community.
Understanding something such as WRONG BEHAVIOR, then makes you tolerant, and you reach the same result…CHAOS!! Here is another example….You have an employee at your station. Sales meetings start at 8 a.m.. But this employee NEVER shows up at the start time. They come to work at 8:30 a.m.. Based on your arguments, we must make sure we don’t offend and must understand this person….WHY??? That employee’s bad behavior does nothing but create chaos in that station.
Now go back and read my arguments and my examples. The whole general thrust is this. You came here, NOW BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY!!! We are not Canada. We don’t make special states that only speak French!!! We don’t understand you when you have lived here for ten years and still do not or won’t speak english. We don’t understand you when you have lived here ten years and have FIVE CHILDREN all by different fathers, and you still refuse to become a productive member of society. We don’t understand you when you take a wonderful community, like Caldwell, Nampa….OR NOTUS, and destroy it. We don’t understand the drive by shootings, the gang grafitti.
WE DON’T UNDERSTAND AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND.
“THE”: You make a great point. However your argument with regard to poor folks having a higher crime rate, flies in the facts of the depression. I will simply point out that in most cases you are correct….my argument is simply this….WHY DOESN’T SOMEONE TELL THEM THE TRUTH???
Stop this “oh you are a racist” nonesense. GET REAL AND CONFRONT THE TRUTH!!! Can you imagine going to the Doctor. He sees that you have cancer, and yet he doesn’t want to “OFFEND YOU?” Personally I would rather someone look me in the eye and tell me “you are going to die.” I can deal with the truth….it is the nebulous “ohhhhh we don’t want to offend” crap that drives me crazy.
on May 18th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Roger, why dont you just run for office and change all the laws to satisfy your ego. You talk how people should do something WELL do it! You strike me as the guy who talks the talk and does’nt walk the walk
on May 18th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Does this mean I have to take my last name off of the back of my car?
on May 18th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Oh, by the way, that wasn’t intended to be a stereotypical comment. But it probably will get stereotyped anyway. I just wanted to say “stereotyped” again. It’s such a stereotyped word.
on May 18th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
clint: we spent all that money for you to be edumacated and this is what we achieved? WOW!!!
on May 19th, 2008 at 1:24 am
Roger W. Morgan said:
“THE”: You make a great point. However your argument with regard to poor folks having a higher crime rate, flies in the facts of the depression. I will simply point out that in most cases you are correct….my argument is simply this….WHY DOESN’T SOMEONE TELL THEM THE TRUTH???”
What “facts of the depression” are you referring to? Most of the immigration to NYC happened prior to the Great Depression, so I’m not sure what you mean.
“WHY DOESN’T SOMEONE TELL THEM THE TRUTH???”
Who is “THEM” and what truth do you want someone to tell them?
on May 19th, 2008 at 6:05 am
I just want Roger to admit (FINALLY) that it is unfair to lump ALL Hispanics/Mexicans into the same mold. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here, but until he ADMITS it, the only way to classify his remarks is by the label, ‘Racist’. So will you, or better yet, CAN you admit that SOME Hispanics/Mexicans actually can be good people? Come on, CAN YOU?
Also, go ahead and ALSO admit that just as many WHITE people abuse the Welfare System as well? I’m sure you will attempt to spin it so that somehow the minorities are the one’s who are responsible for most–if not all–of the abuse and crime and alcoholism and drugs and all the other stereotypes you are labeling them ALL with simply because whether you wish to admit it or not, you have a deep-seated problem against these people for whatever reason–and that reason may even have SOME merit. Like I said before, I have had run in’s with a lot of groups and I was once held-up at knife-point by a small gang of Mexicans (interestingly enough right behind the Police station) and while that soured me BIG time for a LONG time, I realized as I grew older it is simply STUPID to label ALL people of one race as bad because of the actions of a few–or even a lot–because IF you do ROGER, that IS the definition of racism. So once again, I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt because you obviously have had some bad experiences in the past with some of these minorities. But…ARE you man enough to admit that not ALL of them are bad? We’ll see.
on May 19th, 2008 at 9:43 am
Radio Jeff: Nowhere in any of my posts did I say any and or ALL. That would be stupid to classify ALL or ANY Mexican in the scenario’s I have presented. You say that just as many WHITE people abuse the system. THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT!!! However if Mexicans are only 17% of the population here in this area, and the numbers are identical regarding abuse of the WELFARE system….then there is a problem within one community over another one.
Why is it so hard for you or anyone to see or understand what I have been saying? I have never once referred to skin color, never once classed anyone as white or brown. I have simply referred to Mexicans as they wish to be referred….MANY will tell you they are NOT AMERICANS THEY ARE MEXICANS. With respect to them…I will call them what they wish to be called.
Now regarding your question as to whether or not I can say that some Mexicans/Hispanics are really good people. Let me revise your remarks and tell you this….I DON’T SEE COLOR OF SKIN OR CLASS OF PEOPLE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT MOST AMERICANS ARE REALLY GOOD PEOPLE. Those who have no desire to assimilate, and display their flags, I have no use for. Those who chose not to learn English, I have no use for.
Should I be in the market to hire, my requirements would be the same…..SPEAK AND READ ENGLISH….BE ABLE TO RELATE TO ALL AMERICANS….AND I DON’T CARE WHAT COLOR OF SKIN YOU HAVE….JUST PRODUCE!!!!!
Does that make me a racist? Or perhaps you suscribe to the current CRAP being taught in our schools to redefine the meaning of words in the English language.
My answer is not “spin.” It is clear cut and REALITY!! Many in their answers act like a bunch of three year old children…you cover your ears because you don’t like what you hear.
on May 19th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Roger, I think you would make a great columnist for davidduke.com!
on May 19th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Well thank you elchupacabras….your response says this….(I know what you say is the truth, but I don’t want my friends to think I am not cool….so I will insult Mr. Morgan. That way my friends who read this blog will know I am still cool….after all when I can’t argue truth with truth…I can still be cool and that is the most important thing in the world. Goes right along with driving a Bemer, or having an Eagle address.”
So Elchupacabras…thank you!!! Once again you confirm that you don’t have balls enough to address the truth.
on May 20th, 2008 at 7:43 am
Okay Roger, so you did not specifically come out and say ANY and/or ALL…and it WAS nice of you to clarify your point. I asked for it and you finally came through, thank you.
Let me say one of the reasons why you, specifically are being roasted here is exactly the reason why I asked that you make some items clear. What you have been writing came across quite clearly, that you simply do not like Hispanics/Mexicans. If as you say, you see a person and not color, than good for you! Too bad that isn’t the case in most situations…and it certainly wasn’t all that obvious to those of us reading your posts.
I definitely see some of your points, and I won’t argue their validity, because (for the most part) I believe some of them to have merit. It was the way in which you argued your case that certainly looked as though you have/had a bias against this ethnic group. I agree that the National Language ought to be English, but I certainly don’t be-grudge anyone from staying in touch with their roots. Also, for those who have ever had to learn a foreign language, it’s easier said than done. Then again, if I were to move to France, I suppose it would seem rather pointless, not to mention difficult to sustain youself if you made the choice to abstain from learning at least SOME French. It IS a bit frustrating to even make a TRY at changing this way of thinking when so much of society is bending in order to cater TO them. But unfortunately this is the world we live in, and sadly, we are past the point of no return so embracing it or at least accepting it–even if you don’t want to will certainly go a long way.
Earlier you talked about separating Understanding with Acceptance and I disagree with at least how you stated it. Just because someone seeks to better understand why people do wacky things (you used the example of the Mother who killed her children) does not mean they plan to ever accept ANY kind of behavior that results from it, let alone murder. You have a hard time treating Post-Partum Depression if you make NO attempt to TRY and understand it…and by treating it, you can better avoid such tragic outcomes as what happened to that Mother. If you disagree with that, well then we just disagree period on that issue. Personally I could never accept Murder, but it may help me heal if I were to try and understand someone else’s background.
One more thing: Let’s try and stay away from the name calling…and I direct this to everyone.
on May 29th, 2008 at 2:56 am
O.K….I was cool with your using my name right up to the recent battle that you’re waging.
On second thought, the confusion that you’re causing through the use of a name that you admitted was “adopted”, is beginning to bring some unwanted attention to me and my business. Honestly, I would prefer that you revert to your REAL name, “RWM”.
Thanks a million.
Roger W. Morgan
Paradise 93.5 FM Radio
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
http://www.paradise935fm.com
on May 29th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Roger, going totally off subject here, but did you happen to work at the old KISN in Portland in the 60’s? I listened to some of the stuff, and it was GREAT!! I used to live in Beaverton, and althought I wasn’t alive then (born 1968), I am a fan of old radio. Some old stuff is on the Portland Radio guide. Glad to see you are still in the Biz!
on May 31st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
That was me, and thanks for the kind words. The guy in Idaho who is using the name was impressive at first, but I’m a bit concerned by notes that I’m receiving from people who know me and are surprised by comments they are attributing to me. You can learn a bit more by “googling” “Roger W. Morgan radio”, and you can get a pretty good picture of the past 50 years…in a business that has never been a disappointment to me. I wouldn’t change a thing. Thanks for remembering..
RWM
on Jun 1st, 2008 at 9:48 am
Easy to say for a guy working in the Virgin Islands! :)